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		<title>By: phat</title>
		<link>http://www.reefdisorder.com/reef-blog/5-reasons-nano-reefs-are-not-cool-a-response-to-nanoreefblog-262/comment-page-1#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator>phat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>check our poll result on a forum, big tanks win hands down

http://www.sareefkeeping.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19837</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>check our poll result on a forum, big tanks win hands down</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sareefkeeping.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19837" rel="nofollow">http://www.sareefkeeping.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19837</a></p>
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		<title>By: phat</title>
		<link>http://www.reefdisorder.com/reef-blog/5-reasons-nano-reefs-are-not-cool-a-response-to-nanoreefblog-262/comment-page-1#comment-136</link>
		<dc:creator>phat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i find it classic both Curvballs and Dereks, i do tend to agree with Derek that the more water you have the more the WOW factor is increased!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i find it classic both Curvballs and Dereks, i do tend to agree with Derek that the more water you have the more the WOW factor is increased!!</p>
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		<title>By: lak</title>
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		<dc:creator>lak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All-in-one tanks like your biocube are nominally &quot;self-contained&quot; (although some people have beautiful setups with stock equipment), but it&#039;s often false unless you pay the premium for higher quality tanks or those with few extraneous equipment. The modifications of a nano are no different or more complex than the setups of large tanks. I fail to see how a weekly water change of only a couple of gallons, which could effectively make any dosing unnecessary, as more arduous than what you have to do with your 125. It&#039;s a slippery slope to argue about equipment when the only thing that determines what is a nano reef in the first place is [display] tank size.

With regards to bigger livestock, I often think of nanos as the reefkeeping analog to bonsai. There are definite restrictions on what can (or should) be kept, but that doesn&#039;t just apply to nano tanks. Everything should be proportional; I&#039;m sure there are shark police for all the tang police. Besides, even a 280 gallon is a drop in the bucket compared to the volumes many reef fish are used to.

I agree that temperature and the salinity are more influential for nano tanks. However, these are also some of the easiest variables to control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All-in-one tanks like your biocube are nominally &#8220;self-contained&#8221; (although some people have beautiful setups with stock equipment), but it&#8217;s often false unless you pay the premium for higher quality tanks or those with few extraneous equipment. The modifications of a nano are no different or more complex than the setups of large tanks. I fail to see how a weekly water change of only a couple of gallons, which could effectively make any dosing unnecessary, as more arduous than what you have to do with your 125. It&#8217;s a slippery slope to argue about equipment when the only thing that determines what is a nano reef in the first place is [display] tank size.</p>
<p>With regards to bigger livestock, I often think of nanos as the reefkeeping analog to bonsai. There are definite restrictions on what can (or should) be kept, but that doesn&#8217;t just apply to nano tanks. Everything should be proportional; I&#8217;m sure there are shark police for all the tang police. Besides, even a 280 gallon is a drop in the bucket compared to the volumes many reef fish are used to.</p>
<p>I agree that temperature and the salinity are more influential for nano tanks. However, these are also some of the easiest variables to control.</p>
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		<title>By: Curvball</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curvball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant Derek - brilliant :)

You see Jake over at Reefbuilders.com also posted a list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant Derek &#8211; brilliant <img src='http://www.reefdisorder.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You see Jake over at Reefbuilders.com also posted a list.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 03:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The post wasn&#039;t meant to be completely serious.  My goal was to offer a counterpoint to NanoReefBlog&#039;s post about why Nano Reefs are COOL.  But some of the logic holds true.  I started with a 14g Biocube.  One of the reasons they are so cool is that they are completely self-contained.  But, then I needed a chiller, so that was external.  Then I wanted a skimmer (pre-biocube skimmer) so then I had to mod it and it hung on the back... etc etc.

Then I realized that I wanted some bigger fish, so that started the quest for a bigger tank.  

Now I have my 125g tank (300g total water volume).  But I also have a 34g Solana, and a 10g breeder.  

I love nano tanks!  I really do. But, while there is a wow factor about the miniature tank and how perfect it can look, there is also a wow-ness factor when you see a custom in-wall tank that is 9 feet long and visible from both sides!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The post wasn&#8217;t meant to be completely serious.  My goal was to offer a counterpoint to NanoReefBlog&#8217;s post about why Nano Reefs are COOL.  But some of the logic holds true.  I started with a 14g Biocube.  One of the reasons they are so cool is that they are completely self-contained.  But, then I needed a chiller, so that was external.  Then I wanted a skimmer (pre-biocube skimmer) so then I had to mod it and it hung on the back&#8230; etc etc.</p>
<p>Then I realized that I wanted some bigger fish, so that started the quest for a bigger tank.  </p>
<p>Now I have my 125g tank (300g total water volume).  But I also have a 34g Solana, and a 10g breeder.  </p>
<p>I love nano tanks!  I really do. But, while there is a wow factor about the miniature tank and how perfect it can look, there is also a wow-ness factor when you see a custom in-wall tank that is 9 feet long and visible from both sides!</p>
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		<title>By: evilc66</title>
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		<dc:creator>evilc66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 22:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I think most of your points are a little misguided.

5. Water Changes. Nothing stopping you from using the same equipment on smaller tanks for automated water changes. You may need to adapt the concept a little, but it&#039;s still very possible. Even so, a 10% manual water change on a 14 gallon tank takes less time than the 10 minutes you take for your automated one on a larger tank.

4. Tang Police. So what. So you can&#039;t get a Hippo Tang that easily get ich when it&#039;s stressed? Big deal. Most of the smaller fish that are suitable for a nano are more colorful than most larger fish, and are more entertaining IMO. Plus, they also don&#039;t cost $200+.

3. WOW Factor. Seriously? Have you seen some of the well put together nanos? I&#039;d say they rival most larger tanks for WOW factor.

2. Stability. Stupidity and ignorance leads to instability in small tanks just as much as it does to large ones.

1. The Gateway Drug. While in many respects that&#039;s true, smaller tanks show the work, effort, and money involved in keeping a reef tank, and often will put a sense of perspective in to what it will take to get into a larger tank. I&#039;d say that more often than not, those that are not prepared and get into a larger tank will get out of the hobby as they start to not be able to afford the upkeep. There is less of a dropout rate with smaller tanks considering the much lower cost of upkeep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I think most of your points are a little misguided.</p>
<p>5. Water Changes. Nothing stopping you from using the same equipment on smaller tanks for automated water changes. You may need to adapt the concept a little, but it&#8217;s still very possible. Even so, a 10% manual water change on a 14 gallon tank takes less time than the 10 minutes you take for your automated one on a larger tank.</p>
<p>4. Tang Police. So what. So you can&#8217;t get a Hippo Tang that easily get ich when it&#8217;s stressed? Big deal. Most of the smaller fish that are suitable for a nano are more colorful than most larger fish, and are more entertaining IMO. Plus, they also don&#8217;t cost $200+.</p>
<p>3. WOW Factor. Seriously? Have you seen some of the well put together nanos? I&#8217;d say they rival most larger tanks for WOW factor.</p>
<p>2. Stability. Stupidity and ignorance leads to instability in small tanks just as much as it does to large ones.</p>
<p>1. The Gateway Drug. While in many respects that&#8217;s true, smaller tanks show the work, effort, and money involved in keeping a reef tank, and often will put a sense of perspective in to what it will take to get into a larger tank. I&#8217;d say that more often than not, those that are not prepared and get into a larger tank will get out of the hobby as they start to not be able to afford the upkeep. There is less of a dropout rate with smaller tanks considering the much lower cost of upkeep.</p>
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		<title>By: Five ways Nano Reefs are changing the way we do reef tanks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Five ways Nano Reefs are changing the way we do reef tanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jeff!</description>
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		<title>By: jeffry r. johnston</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffry r. johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read NanoReefBlog&#039;s post and headed over to see your response. Authentic and great fun. I started small so several really hit home. 5, 4, and 2 are the practical reasons but #1 is by far the best. &quot;The gateway drug&quot;--well put, my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read NanoReefBlog&#8217;s post and headed over to see your response. Authentic and great fun. I started small so several really hit home. 5, 4, and 2 are the practical reasons but #1 is by far the best. &#8220;The gateway drug&#8221;&#8211;well put, my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  You went backwards!  I am impressed.  I am already planning a massive in-wall tank system (more than one) for our next house.... if the housing market ever recovers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  You went backwards!  I am impressed.  I am already planning a massive in-wall tank system (more than one) for our next house&#8230;. if the housing market ever recovers!</p>
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